It had nothing to do with cycling, the readings were always good for this area, just a ph that was a little high , everything else was doing fine .... and then they started dying right and left .... (this was after my initial bad start where I lost some due to ignorance). First it was the food, then ICK, then parasites, then velvet ....... I couldn't win no matter what! I treated with salt, malachite green, Jungle parasite clear tank buddies, and velvet guard, but they all died in the end I just know I'm disgusted with carp ..... not only because it takes 2 years for them to grow to frying pan size, but they are extremely susceptible to disease ...... never again! Hopefully I will be able to sell the guppies and endlers to fish shops to help pay for the food ...... other than that, they'll supply much-needed fertilizersOriginally Posted by badflash