Intex Pools

[badflash]

This weekend you can get 8' intex pools for $25 at Big Lots and other discounters. These are not supplied with the cheap junk pumps, so it is just the pool. You can add a decent pump on your oun $. It looks like they are plumbed for pumps. I bought 4 for my project. Hard to go wrong.
This is http://www.intexcorp.com/easy8x30.htm model 56970/E

[Ravnis]

a word of caution on the intex pools with the floating ring. I had set one up with the intention of using it as a tank for a greenwater experiment. All was going well till a hose came off. I came home to a fully emptied pool and 40 ~1lb tilapia dead and drying out in the bottom. Those kind of pools rise when filled and lower when empty. Extra precautions need to be added when using them.

[catfish]

This weekend you can get 8' intex pools for $25 at Big Lots and other discounters. These are not supplied with the cheap junk pumps, so it is just the pool. You can add a decent pump on your oun $. It looks like they are plumbed for pumps. I bought 4 for my project. Hard to go wrong.
This is http://www.intexcorp.com/easy8x30.htm model 56970/E

So are the pumps that come with the intex pools not work using for anything like this? I ask as I have one left over from an older pool.

If not can you make a recomendation as to what pump to use and where to get one?

Whate are you using with your intex pool setup?

Thanks

[badflash]

I don't know if they will work or not. I do have a spare I will try first and see if it has the head. Barring that I would use a small pool pump like I do for my basement system.

I've been eyeing the CWPPA-1/6 & PAQO-9000 at
http://www.jehmco.com/html/water_pumps_ ... heads.html

[catfish]

I don't know if they will work or not. I do have a spare I will try first and see if it has the head. Barring that I would use a small pool pump like I do for my basement system.

I've been eyeing the CWPPA-1/6 & PAQO-9000 at
http://www.jehmco.com/html/water_pumps_ ... heads.html

Ok not to sound to stupid here, but could you try to explain to me the differences in the types of pumps that are listed on that page, and why I would want to choose one over the other one.

What does each one do and where would they be placed in the system?

Could these be used with an aquarium or stock tank setup?

Thanks

[badflash]

In a system like I am building, these would go between the pool and the beds. The beds are higher than the pool so the water can gravity drain back. The pump needs to be able to lift the water to the top of the grow bed at a flow rate high enough for the fish.

I am shooting for 25 GPM in an 800 gallon system. This will give me 2 turn overs of the water volume every hour. I probably won't use the return on the pool as it isn't large enough to handle 25 gpm.

The CWPPA-1/6 looks to be better built. The PAQO-9000 looks to be made of plastic. The CWPPA-1/6 will need to be covered as it is metal. Once the greenhouse is up, that won't matter.

[catfish]

In a system like I am building, these would go between the pool and the beds. The beds are higher than the pool so the water can gravity drain back. The pump needs to be able to lift the water to the top of the grow bed at a flow rate high enough for the fish.

I am shooting for 25 GPM in an 800 gallon system. This will give me 2 turn overs of the water volume every hour. I probably won't use the return on the pool as it isn't large enough to handle 25 gpm.

The CWPPA-1/6 looks to be better built. The PAQO-9000 looks to be made of plastic. The CWPPA-1/6 will need to be covered as it is metal. Once the greenhouse is up, that won't matter.

Would I need one of these types of pumps if I am just planning on using filtration and air. I do not want to mess with grow beds.

Are there pros and cons to having grow beds?

[badflash]

I do not want to mess with grow beds.

Are there pros and cons to having grow beds?

Space is the only CON to grow beds. You get free food from them and it cleans the water and provides bio filtration. If you don't use plants to remove the nitrates and phosphates you have to do large water changes to keep the fish healthy. That means at least 30% of your water gets dumped each week.

[catfish]

I do not want to mess with grow beds.

Are there pros and cons to having grow beds?

Space is the only CON to grow beds. You get free food from them and it cleans the water and provides bio filtration. If you don't use plants to remove the nitrates and phosphates you have to do large water changes to keep the fish healthy. That means at least 30% of your water gets dumped each week.

This may be a silly question but what do the grow beds do that bio filters can not?

Plus don't the grow beds tend to smell?

[badflash]

Grow beds don't smell. They are gardens. Grow beds with living plants remove nitrates and phosphates. This makes it so you don't need to do water changed. Just add water to make up for evaporation. Bio filters only convert the ammonia to nitrate. The biproducts must be removed or the fish will die.