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    Re: Quick-Set Pool For A FT

    The whole deal on chemicals coming out of PVC is total BS like most of the fads like the ozone hole or global warming. The idea is to find something that the 1st world (us) uses and the 3rd world doesn't. Next thing to do is to make up an issue that is nearly impossible to disprove and put it out there to tear down modern technology. You'll see this theme over & over. Each and every one is eventually proven false, but the political damage can never be undone.

    I started by raising apple snails, then went on to giant prawns. Both are very sensitive to any sort of chemical contamination. They grew like there was no tomorrow. Remember these pools are designed for use in infant humans. They are the most susceptible to these sorts of estrogen simulants. Pool companies would come to en end, not to mention baby bottles, etc. Lots of accusations, but no science.




    In this last picture you'll see the writing on the bottom of the easyset pool.

    Here is what the prawns looked like when I got then at 1/4"


    The thing at the top is a titanium heater for scale.

    Beef and fat in general along with refined sugars, especially high fructose corn syrup is what is doing us in.
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    Re: Quick-Set Pool For A FT

    Excellent points! After failing to find any scientific support for the claims, I told myself I would dig deeper and analyze the chemical composition of vinyl and investigate the manufacturing process to see if I could uncover ANYTHING to support those claims. Your observations are good enough for me!

    Those giant prawn look amazing!!! You should write up a guide on how to raise them step-by-step for the rest of us

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    Re: Quick-Set Pool For A FT

    They are as easy to keep as crayfish, but a lot meaner. Nearly impossible for individuals like us to breed them as the zoes need brackish water and continuous feeding with brine shrimp and special feeds. They really need ponds as the males kill each other at every opportunity. I started off with 1000 post larvals and ended up with 1 male and maybe 50 females. Red Claws are a much better bet.
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    Re: Quick-Set Pool For A FT

    Quote Originally Posted by mistermoose
    BTW...Since the above mentioned farm is not advised, can anyone recommend a fishery here in the south to get stock from?

    I got mine from White Brook Farm (www.tilapiasource.com). They've been extremely helpful with any questions, and the fish have been great.

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    Re: Quick-Set Pool For A FT

    Quote Originally Posted by grimsteph
    Quote Originally Posted by mistermoose
    BTW...Since the above mentioned farm is not advised, can anyone recommend a fishery here in the south to get stock from?
    I got mine from White Brook Farm (http://www.tilapiasource.com). They've been extremely helpful with any questions, and the fish have been great.
    Price is my only concern with them. I have only heard good things about them, and in this case I guess you get what you pay for.

    There are some members on here that used to sell fish, but I'm not sure if they still do. So, I guess go to your standard vendors for such things...

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    Re: Quick-Set Pool For A FT

    I found their prices to be in line with just about every other place I looked, but I do recall at the time thinking they all were kind of expensive. Now I'm going on my third generation from the original batch I bought. At this point, the cost per tilapia is in the fractions of a penny range. A big reason I bought from them is because of several positive reviews on this site and several of the big sites like byap, aquaponics hq and practical aquaponics. Now I'm considering some of their Hawaiian Golds, but I'm not sure it's a great idea to add another strain right now. I've got more than I can really handle as it is. This stuff truly is an addiction.

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    Re: Quick-Set Pool For A FT

    Quote Originally Posted by grimsteph
    I found their prices to be in line with just about every other place I looked, but I do recall at the time thinking they all were kind of expensive. Now I'm going on my third generation from the original batch I bought. At this point, the cost per tilapia is in the fractions of a penny range. A big reason I bought from them is because of several positive reviews on this site and several of the big sites like byap, aquaponics hq and practical aquaponics. Now I'm considering some of their Hawaiian Golds, but I'm not sure it's a great idea to add another strain right now. I've got more than I can really handle as it is. This stuff truly is an addiction.
    Yep! When I get my new house I am going to build a HUGE setup, which will mostly be for research. Then, I will buy some good fish stock from those good folks.

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    Re: Quick-Set Pool For A FT

    I agree that, if you're just getting started, anything that will hold water should work. That being said, if you end up using any of the many types of above ground pools, I would also agree that you could "dig in" the pool to provide it some support and help moderate the water temperatures. Of course, the "flip side" to this is, doing so allows more ready access to critters (such as raccoons, the family dog, etc.), so you'll have to keep that in mind.

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    Re: Quick-Set Pool For A FT

    I haven't had good service from Miami Aquaculture. Good stock...but lacking on the bedside manner. Maybe I am just hypersensitive.
    At first I left this blank...but now I believe: "It's better to keep your mouth closed, and have the world think your a fool, than open it and confirm it."

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