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    Re: Senate Bill S510 Makes Homegrown Food illegal

    should a famine strike, or the distribution of food be controlled by big business/government, or total control of buying selling by government is a remote possibility in our country. but, catastrophic earthquakes, floods, etc, are very possible. those that don't have food will go after those that have as is demonstrated everyday in parts of the world. being able to protect ones family and ones self will certainly be necessary.

    being prepared for the unexpected is being wise, not paranoid.

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    Don't be so sure. We are due for the double dip of this depression. This has been a fools recovery and with the amount of debt that we've accumulated, it is inevetible for the bottom to drop out. The Chinese are dumping dollars as fast as they can without ruining the dollar. Once they are done the rest of the world will no longer use the old greenback as the currency of choice. Once we can no longer service the debt by printing money, hyper inflation sets in. The best examples of this was pre WW II Germany and more recently Yugoslavia. Don't think it can't happen here.

    We won't be able to import anything and no one will be able to pay their workers. Start getting really self suffient.
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    Re: Senate Bill S510 Makes Homegrown Food illegal

    ok, what i really bellieve is that we will not have currencey but debit/credit cards that will control our buying, selling, working, it will affect every aspect of our lives. i do not believe it is that far away. there are many facets to what is going on. it is not reverseable.

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    Re: Senate Bill S510 Makes Homegrown Food illegal

    This bill replaced S. 510, the original FDA Food Safety Modernization Act. On Sunday, December 19, the text of S. 510 replaced the original text of H.R. 2751, and the bill passed by voice vote. H.R. 2751, originally the Consumer Assistance to Recycle and Save Act, passed the House in June 2009 and was a "vehicle" for the passage of S. 510 in a House-originating bill because S. 510 was a revenue-raising bill. All revenue-raising bills must originate in the House.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtex ... =h111-2751
    H.R. 2751: FDA Food Safety Modernization Act
    Signed by President Jan 4, 2011

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    Re: Senate Bill S510 Makes Homegrown Food illegal

    Gentlemen....and Ladies, I have been reading this forum for the past few days trying to absorb all the information I can about Aquaponics. My interest started out with hydroponics, but rapidly shifted to AP after finding this forum. I feel the possibilities to take this (AP) as far as one wishes is only limited by ones' imagination and "want to". I am of the same opinion as most of the respondants to this particular thread. This thread's subject matter caught my eye, and as I read I thought, Yep, I'm in the right place. I have never put together an AP system, but intend to start very soon. At present I'm tinkering with a small hydroponics setup, but that's another story. I realize this is not the right place to introduce myself, but, I figured that since the type of discussions in this particulat thread is the basis for my being here in the first place......why not? You see, I'm a beginning prepper - kinda. I'm not going all out, but I want to be at least a little self-sufficient when it comes to feeding my family. Food is just one part of the big picture, but without food nothing else much matters, does it? I feel that the gubment we have now in control of this contry is frightening and I see nothing good happening in the near future. In my opinion we are rapidly being steered into socialism and the majority of the population seems to be quite content with that. Well, I'm not. I've been around for quite a few years minding my own business and behaving myself......well, not getting caught, anyway ........ and I don't feel good at all about this country's future. But I digress....and wander. I AM quite excited and eager to get an AP system up and running, and with what I have learned from lurking/reading this forum I expect things to go much smoother than starting out on my own. It's such a pleasure to be able to gather all you learned guys in one place right on my computer any time I have a question bouncing around in my bald head. I've also read with much interest "urbanfarmer's" posts about the business aspects of AP . Maybe I'll get close enough to him one day to offer to buy him a beer so I can bounce some ideas around with him - not that I wouldn't be happy to buy any of you a beer if given the opportunity. Well it's time to put my soapbox away and say I'm happy to find this forum with so many like-minded people, and looking forward to getting a system up 'n runnin soon. Hope I don't have to ask too many questions.......
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    welcome to the forum Aufin, i have been quiet on this forum for awhile, there is unlimited first rate information on this site that will certainly head you in the right direction. really some great folks here.

    Rich

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    Hi Aufin, welcome to the forum.
    Seeing as how you admited your bald, your all right in my book...I am too, but I shave what little I have left... ..

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    Re: Senate Bill S510 Makes Homegrown Food illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Aufin
    Gentlemen....and Ladies, I have been reading this forum for the past few days trying to absorb all the information I can about Aquaponics. My interest started out with hydroponics, but rapidly shifted to AP after finding this forum. I feel the possibilities to take this (AP) as far as one wishes is only limited by ones' imagination and "want to". I am of the same opinion as most of the respondants to this particular thread. This thread's subject matter caught my eye, and as I read I thought, Yep, I'm in the right place. I have never put together an AP system, but intend to start very soon. At present I'm tinkering with a small hydroponics setup, but that's another story. I realize this is not the right place to introduce myself, but, I figured that since the type of discussions in this particulat thread is the basis for my being here in the first place......why not? You see, I'm a beginning prepper - kinda. I'm not going all out, but I want to be at least a little self-sufficient when it comes to feeding my family. Food is just one part of the big picture, but without food nothing else much matters, does it? I feel that the gubment we have now in control of this contry is frightening and I see nothing good happening in the near future. In my opinion we are rapidly being steered into socialism and the majority of the population seems to be quite content with that. Well, I'm not. I've been around for quite a few years minding my own business and behaving myself......well, not getting caught, anyway ........ and I don't feel good at all about this country's future. But I digress....and wander. I AM quite excited and eager to get an AP system up and running, and with what I have learned from lurking/reading this forum I expect things to go much smoother than starting out on my own. It's such a pleasure to be able to gather all you learned guys in one place right on my computer any time I have a question bouncing around in my bald head. I've also read with much interest "urbanfarmer's" posts about the business aspects of AP . Maybe I'll get close enough to him one day to offer to buy him a beer so I can bounce some ideas around with him - not that I wouldn't be happy to buy any of you a beer if given the opportunity. Well it's time to put my soapbox away and say I'm happy to find this forum with so many like-minded people, and looking forward to getting a system up 'n runnin soon. Hope I don't have to ask too many questions.......
    Greetings Earthling, and welcome to the addiction!

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    Re: Senate Bill S510 Makes Homegrown Food illegal

    And this is why I am here to duplicate your successes as I feel I don't have time for trial and error. Then our co-op are going to duplicate that system and keep multiplying from there. On another non ap topic look into raising bees. That's another fun beneficial project.

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    Re: Senate Bill S510 Makes Homegrown Food illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Patdaman
    And this is why I am here to duplicate your successes as I feel I don't have time for trial and error. Then our co-op are going to duplicate that system and keep multiplying from there. On another non ap topic look into raising bees. That's another fun beneficial project.
    Simply, let us know how we can help!

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