Bedini Motor and backup power

**David - WI** · 04-16-2012, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Eleven11

Well yeah, I charged a few different batteries to full capacity, (even overcharge them) plus it's right here in the charge test...

That's good enough for me; I don't believe a word of what comes off Bedini's web posts... but if you've actually done it then there's no reason for me to doubt that it works.

**Eleven11** · 04-16-2012, 08:25 PM

If I disconnected the charging battery for a split second, the voltage would spike. I saw it jump as high as 90 volts and it would easily arc and pop. I put a neon bulb across the emitter and collector of the output transistor to protect it when experimenting with disconnecting the charging battery like that.

It would instantly charge a 250 volt Non-polarized capacitor.

**wstoltenberg** · 04-17-2012, 11:57 AM

I'm no Electrical engineer, but I know enough of physics to be highly skeptical. Unfortunately, the focus in these posts refers to voltage. I can completely see how an 11v source could charge 3 (or a million) destination batteries to 14v. I have no problem with that.

But that's not power. That's potential. It's like saying you can take a below-ground swimming pool as the source and 3 water glasses (sitting above ground) as the destination. It's totally possible with that scenario to build a mechanical device that will result in filling the glasses with no external energy source. The solution would be to use the potential energy in the pool itself (weight of the water due to gravity), and by lowering that mass, harvest enough energy to raise a fraction of that mass into the 3 glasses. BUT due to frictional losses, you would have to take more energy from lowering the swimming pool mass than you would gain by lifting some of that water into the 3 glasses. The net result of that experiment would be a loss of energy.

In that example, the water level is your voltage.

Now, in the "unidentified internet source", it's claimed that all of the batteries are of equal capacity. This is the most likely source of inaccuracies in the story and is what I'd first want to see proof of. Preferably by draining the battery to do useful work to demonstrate that they actually held the purported energy - and a full set of measurements along the way to demonstrate the current and voltage at regular intervals. (and of course, a better measurement to indicate how much power they held to start with

)

I do not doubt that the device changes the voltage. But I bet if you were to measure power (voltage x current) at every point you'd reveal the truth about what's really happening in that system.

**Eleven11** · 04-17-2012, 12:16 PM

Good points. I'm sure there are more charging tests out there. This one came up first in my search though.

One of the first things that I did with mine was to hook it up to a car battery that would no longer start the car. I left it on all night and in the morning, it did start the car. I thought I might have even rejuvenated it but after while it wouldn't start the car again.

**urbanfarmer** · 04-17-2012, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by bsfman

Originally Posted by Eleven11

TOTAL BATTERIES CHARGED:

12 lead acid gel-cell batteries (12 volts, 450 milliamps each). This ratio is a 12 to 1 charging factor. The motor operation (work) being performed as this was done is not included as an additional factor in this test.

Sorry Eleven11, but color me completely skeptical of these "unidentified internet source" test results. Perpetual Motion and overunity devices are contrary to the laws of physics. You can't get more energy out of a system than you put into it. This test supposedly happened in year 2000. If these results were real, the ENTIRE WORLD would have converted in the ensuing 12 years to Bedini motors since energy would be essentially free. In just ten iterations, Bedinis could charge nearly 62 BILLION batteries all off an original single 12 volt?

1 (original)
12
144
1,728
20,736
248,832
2,985,984
35,831,808
429,981,696
5,159,780,352
61,917,364,224

That's 124 volts constant power running continuously 24/7 for each and every of the 6 billion men, women and children on the entire earth all off an original 12 vold battery? Nope. Color me skeptical.

Good sir:

I would like to commend you on your use of mathematics.

Good day,

UF

**Eleven11** · 04-17-2012, 07:33 PM

**urbanfarmer** · 04-17-2012, 07:38 PM

Just a few.

**Eleven11** · 04-18-2012, 01:44 PM

I never did try to charge multiple batteries but did exchange some info with someone who did...

As far as charging 4 battery's with one, I have done this with a set of garden tractor battery's that had been extensively conditioned by cycle charging and discharging them 25+ times with a wheel SG cap pulser circuit back in 2006 with one of my early circuits, that i gave to a friend to test on his batteries

it can be done, but it takes some patients to super charge the Battery's to the point that they will do it

one of the others things that the energizers do, is shorten the charge time by 20 to 30%, and the 4 hour standing Voltage is over 13.V where a fully charged standard DC charge is 12.6V to 12.7V.

I have seen Energizer charged batteries run the load at 13V+ for an hour before going below 13V and another 4 hours to get below 12.9V, show me any other DC charger or desulfator that can do that......

RS_

**rutan** · 07-22-2013, 06:30 PM

Halo,

just got on board.

If it's used to charge batteries then it's no free energy at all because there is a cost for maintaining/replacing the batteries. Not much different with solar power actually. With regards to free energy devices which can be found on the net. You'll be lucky if you'd be at the right place at the right time to receive any info from the web, once a real free energy device is posted. Fact is when it's been there too long then there is little or nothing we can get from it. Reason; free energy is suppressed and the suppressors have control of almost every mainstreams including the internet.

Just an opinion.

**rutan** · 07-22-2013, 06:45 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krEVMHieTuI

A friend has a similar device that can be found on the link. He used it to charge a battery that powers his PC perpetually.

I figured that a good and cheap solar panel will be better as there is virtually no maintenance except the batteries. In this set up you also have to maintain the alternators and motors.

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