Hello from Tehachapi, California

[PowerLink]

Talk about jumping in with both feet!

I purchased a geodesic dome in 2008 and it sat in the driveway until last year when I got a call from a carpenter friend that needed a place to live and upon his arrival, he proceeded to turn our place into a pile of sawdust, so to speak.

After he built our office, he did several additions, windows etc. and an award winning deck. One day he asked what the big boxes were out in the yard and from there, it started, my life will never be the same.

So, up it goes!

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At about this point, of course, he starts asking questions about the tank and liner that came with the package and tells me that I should make it as big as possible and put fish in it. I thought....okay!

Now 30years ago I worked for Marine Land Life Support (Aquaria Inc.) and had lots of experience with biological filter systems. That was a long time ago and I thought it would be best to get a couple of books on the subject. The first book that the big brown truck brought was Sylvia Bernstein's Aquaponic Gardening. Needless to say, I was hooked, so to speak. The grand idea of dirt filled boxes went out the window and the digging began.

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This will probably be my first, no, second mistake. First one is, I should have started smaller. Second is that the sump tank is probably too small. It is a 100gal stock tank for an estimated 1500gal system.

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My plan is to have two pumps in the sump, a main 1000gph and a 800gph on a float switch for high level support.

Now I am almost ready to do some plumbing and fill the tank and I'll continue by replying to this post.

[eddiemigue]

Welcome PowerLink and thanks for sharing! That is one awesome structure. I am green with envy, as I longed to have a geodome myself - alas my property is rather small, and my wife had some issues with the look of the structure. Nonetheless, I wish you much success!

Some advice - include dedicated mechanical and biological filtration, and post your design for feedback before you get too far into the build. There are some very knowledgeable folks on here who will generously share what they know and may help you avoid some of the early hard lessons. I bought Sylvia's book when I first got into AP, and while it gives a basic overview, I believe that it can set you up for failure if you only rely on it's contents to proceed.

You may also want to take a look at The Biodome Garden Book...by P. Watters. It may give you some ideas for efficient layouts and maximizing your space. The author setup an AP system in a dome, and there are some nice features you might like.

[PowerLink]

Thanks for the response. I am kinda making it up as i go and could probably use some help with the fluid mechanics.

Here's what I have planned:

1200gal main tank drains into 100gal sump via 2in with pickup tube at the bottom of main tank for solids.
The sump will have two pumps, one 1000gph to run continuously and one 800gph with a float switch for high water level support.
The pumps will go to a modified "Skippy" filter (70gal) positioned above the main tank. The lower portion of the Skippy filter (solids) will drain via 2in to the grow beds (9ea 50gal stock tanks) with bell siphons in each. This will drain back to the sump via 2in. The upper portion of the Skippy will overflow into the main tank.

I believe this to be called a "CHOP2" system with the "Skippy" added for additional biological support. As a bonus, the added elevation of the Skippy gave me the option of getting my grow beds higher off the ground (I'm 6'4").

[aquaally]

Hello Powerlink:
I am also green with envy! What a coooool project. I also appricate the lay of the land you are working with, not flat, like mine. Please post pics through out your build and completed system. Thanks for sharing. aquaally

[PowerLink]

Hello Powerlink:
I am also green with envy! What a coooool project. I also appricate the lay of the land you are working with, not flat, like mine. Please post pics through out your build and completed system. Thanks for sharing. aquaally

Careful about wanting land with slopes and elevation changes, we have to fight for every inch of level space and then fight some more to keep it. Erosion is a constant battle, my structures complain as well as the neighbors. That is 12tons of gravel you are looking at to get the geo-dome level.

[David - WI]

Awesome. A dome would have been my first choice, but I already had a building. :cry:

[PowerLink]

Okay.... I am getting close to filling the system with water. The 1000gph pump I purchased appears to be a joke and that one will be used as a high sump level backup. I am going to get a 2000 with 1-1/2 outlet for the main pump.

As I described earlier, I think the little 100gal stock tank is a bit small and now would be a good time to dig through the granite and build a 4X4X5 (600gal) with a liner. Some of my reduced logic however tells me that the 100gal sump will have a high turnover but should still always be full due to the main tank draining into it.

Thoughts?

[davidstcldfl]

Hi PowerLink, :lol: ...love the dome... 8-)

In your 3rd picture...the stainless steel, that your ear muffs are hanging on... is that your fish tank ...?
Oliver has written a great guide here at DIY...Aquaponics 101. Check it out, if you haven't already... :)

[PowerLink]

Yes, that is the main tank and I wish it was stainless, galvanized steel is much easier to work with.

Been reading everything I can as I/we would like this thing to work the first time.

Also in the third pic, you can see that's all granite we have to break through to get in a bigger sump. The decision has been made! We are going to dig a 4X4X4 foot deep hole and will build the structure one foot above grade for the new improved sump. This will give us close to 600gal of sump which hopefully will suffice.

[topz]

Not sure your going to want to use that as a tank. The ph of the system will naturally lower and since the water just recirculates your going to built up more and more metals in your water. Not good for fish, plants, or you really. Just throwing it out there. Hope it helps.

[dead_sled]

Not sure your going to want to use that as a tank. The ph of the system will naturally lower and since the water just recirculates your going to built up more and more metals in your water. Not good for fish, plants, or you really. Just throwing it out there. Hope it helps.
X2 ^^^^^

You could line it with a pond liner or maybe find an epoxy coating. What did you have in mind PowerLink?

[PowerLink]

It does have a pond liner! Don't know how it would hold water without it. The football shape presents a bit of a challenge getting all the pleating to fold neatly.

I will get some recent pic's up.

[David - WI]

Not sure your going to want to use that as a tank. The ph of the system will naturally lower and since the water just recirculates your going to built up more and more metals in your water. Not good for fish, plants, or you really. Just throwing it out there. Hope it helps.

Interesting article to today on "metal-eating" plants. The most interesting thing in the whole article is:


The discovery of the new metal-eating plant -- one of only 450 species out of 300,000 known vascular plants that can absorb significant amounts of metal...

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2014/05 ... z31Wjs0UFU (http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2014/05/12/Scientists-discover-metal-eating-plant-in-Philippines/6781399907668/#ixzz31Wjs0UFU)

450 species that could potentially remove metals from a system or supply water. :o

[PowerLink]

Little update here, the sump has been re-dug and is now a 4X4X5 which gives us a bit over 500gal.
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The raft is built!
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And we are installing liners.
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Hopefully we will be filling with water this weekend.

[Apollo]

Looking GREAT...top QUALITY all the way!

Lots of hard work, but so good to look back on all that you have accomplished at the end of what seems to be a never ending process.

[topz]

Looks great! Keep us up to speed on how your cycle goes. What fish will you be raising?

[PowerLink]

Okay, got water in the system and got all the bell siphons working. I am thinking that this fill will be for leaching and I will drain and refill in a couple days.
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Now I am getting ready to plumb the nursery and had thought that it might be a good idea to make it an independent system. Is there any benefit to keeping a totally separate system besides maybe hospice?
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[PowerLink]

Drained the system today, sprayed down the interior of the dome and lots of icky yellow stuff came off the structure into the beds. Glad I did this now rather than wait till it started raining in there. Was down in the sump and almost lost my footing! Lots of slime down there after about 5 days of circulation. I am figuring the slime in the main tank will be the same and I shouldn't worry about it.

I am a bit concerned about our well water, it has lots of minerals (very hard water) that solidify everywhere. I am thinking that it is merely dirt just as in a natural environment and shouldn't be a problem. We have used paper element filters in the past and they clog quickly. I may install one of these filters in the system just to see how much clogging occurs and if it continues after everything settles.

Found that my second choice in pumps won't be good enough (Waveline DC1200). It was great with tank and grow beds but once I got the raft flooded, it fell way behind. Ordered a Reeflo Barracuda, with about double the performance of the DC1200, that should do the trick.

Finally found unadulterated ammonia after weeks of searching. Not doing any promotions here but.... Tractor Supply carries it as a regular stocking item.

Thanks

[PowerLink]

Half cup of ammonia and some bacteria went in the system last night! This morning it looks like that brought me to 3ppm. My calculations tell me it should have been 4ppm which only means I was low on my total volume calculations.

Half cup was not nearly enough, I was reading .3ppm rather than 3ppm. At least I was on the low side. I have added 2 full cups and this seems to have brought it up to a full 4ppm.

[PowerLink]

WooHoo! Exactly 30 days to cycle! Been dosing up to 3ppm every couple days and the last couple days, the ammonia has been disappearing every morning leaving me with lots of nitrites and nitrates this morning...Whala! No ammonia and no nitrites. PH has been holding at 8 with no crashes. I dosed back up to 3ppm this morning which about finishes off my second gallon of ammonia.

The banana tree is doing awesome! It has grown 5 new leaves since the beginning of the cycle. The beans are out preforming the ones planted outside as far as growth but seem a little frail.

[Aloha Don]

Please let us know the latest with your system under the dome?
This was a great project

[JCO]

You hit the nail on the head Don, how 'bout an update on your system and the rest of your build. Photos please :mrgreen: